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When men are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 6-7 → Ps. Here the term "Gentile" is likely best interpreted as any non-Jew who is a candidate to be gathered back to the fold or church of God. Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 29-30 Are we involved in the Marvelous Work? . These also must be eventually gathered out from among the nations (A Glimpse into the Future, Chapter 1, The Great Last Gathering). 2 Ne. The Lord refers to the people of the latter day. The only thing that preceded it was the First Vision. Revelation has not ceased. Deut. Today, if one is interested, these books are available and may be easily found and purchased. Modern revelation indicates that the massive immigration pouring across the Lord's mighty highway will saturate all of the arable land and require the settling of both deserts and barren regions. The honest judge will give full value to all for their good works and will not overlook the other" (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball. being gathered in from the four corners of the earth, and from the north countries" (Ether 13:11, italics added). What are the perceptions of the Gentiles relative to the Bible and its origins? While we may have come to regard them, as a culture, to be refractory to the gospel message until the Lord's second coming, we must love them and never cease our efforts to win them over to the fulness of the gospel-to "recover them.". . 2 Nephi 2:24-25. Now, back to Brother Cleon Skousen and The book of Esdras. 2 Nephi 29: Rejection of the Book of Mormon In the Last Days the Book of Mormon will be rejected by the voice of many, claiming; “…A Bible! Perhaps Jesus's phrase "from one end of heaven to the other" corresponds to Moses's "out unto the outmost parts of heaven.". See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". . 6 Thou fool, that shall say: A aBible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. ", This expression originated with the prophet Isaiah and is found in, "my covenants which I have made unto the children of men", This phrase refers to the Abrahamic covenant the details of which can be reviewed in the commentary for, "that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people", This same expression is used a few times in the book of Second Nephi. 11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written. 2 Nephi 29. They will hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, so to speak. And they shall perish. Prophets have suggested that the ten tribes will be gathered in from "the north countries." Instead of quoting Isaiah directly, Nephi is writing his own sermon which quotes Isaiah heavily, and in many instances verbatim. verse 7 Do you not know that all people of the earth are my children and are entitled to hear my words? 13:25 (23–25); D&C 3:16. In any case this great "second" or final gathering is now in progress as Israel gathers to the gospel and to the stakes of Zion. TG Israel, Gathering of; Lands of Inheritance. The possibility of a separate record of scripture coming forth from the "lost" ten tribes of Israel is problematic. This verse is a statement on the constancy and eternal nature of God. I was being prompted before finding this blog that I needed to focus my studies more on the Book of Mormon. The only individual to whom the Lord is able to "prove" anything is he who is responsive to the Spirit. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. 2 Nephi 29: 6-7: “Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. And when will they "run together"? 1) “A … powerful testimony to the importance of the Book of Mormon is to note where the Lord placed its coming forth in the timetable of the unfolding Restoration. Without this long parenthetical expression, the first sentence of this chapter would read something like, "But behold, there shall be many Gentiles [who] shall say: A Bible! We do not accept them as canonized scripture, but certainly acknowledge that they may contain some significant truths. The only individual to whom the Lord is able to "prove" anything is he who is responsive to the Spirit. 2 Nephi 7. 13:24 (23–24). It is touching to reflect on the Lord's persistent dedication and patience which he evidences for his wayward children-especially his "chosen," those who were especially valiant in the premortal world. The Nephite nation was indeed destroyed according to the words of Nephi in a manner similar to the destruction of Jerusalem . . BOOK OF MORMON AUDIO LINK http://lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=enghttp://ComeUntoChrist.orghttp://ChurchofJesusChrist.org “What Thank They the Jews”? . 2 Ne 25:29 worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul. For a more complete discussion of the heresy of sola scriptura, see Ye Shall Know of the Doctrine, volume 4, chapters 7, 8, and 9: Scriptural Canon-Should It Be Open or Closed?, Continuing Revelation and Modern Scripture, and The Question of Scriptural Inerrancy. - 2 Nephi 29 Nephi speaks of the time when the Lord will bring forth His marvelous work and a wonder. "And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?" . 2 Nephi 10. (2 Nephi 29:4): A Note on the Name “Judah” and Antisemitism (Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture Book 12) (English Edition) eBook: Matthew L. … But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all... LDS Scripture of the Day January 1, 2017. One verse of scripture suggests that "north countries" refers to a place beyond the four corners of the earth: " . This is the doctrine of sola scriptura. This would include the citizens of the great Gentile nation of the latter days, the United States of America, though many of those citizens are blood descendants of the house of Israel. Jacob. Joseph Smith said one of the principal reasons the wicked will be cleansed from the earth is to make room "from the lost tribes of Israel from the north country" (TPJS, 1973 edition, 17). verse 10 A firmly held heresy in the sectarian religious world is that the Bible contains all of God's word and that there is no true scripture outside of the Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? 2 Nephi 29: 12. Know ye not that the atestimony of btwo nations is a cwitness unto you that I am God, that I remember one dnation like unto another? It is used to show the Book of Mormon already anticipated an argument against it, … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 3 → Jeremiah says the Lord will lead the seed of Israel "out of the north country" and then comments: "It shall no more be said, the Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; but the Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands whither he had driven them" (Jeremiah 16:14-15). Is it not logical to expect a corresponding record to be provided for people of the New World? See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". 2 Nephi 5. This chapter describes Satan's latter-day attack on the Book of Mormon. to be written.". Do they acknowledge the diligence of those righteous Jews, the Jewish prophets, through whose efforts and sacrifice we have a Bible today? The Lord says these returning multitudes will bring with them vast treasures of precious things which will be turned over to the priesthood in the New Jerusalem, no doubt for the embellishment of the temple and beautifying of the great new capital city: "And they shall bring forth their rich treasures unto the children of Ephraim, my servants" (D&C 133:30). Brother Cleon Skousen has also drawn upon the apocryphal Old Testament book of Esdras for some other suggestions regarding the lost ten tribes. Joseph Fielding Smith "In answering the question of the lawyer, 'Master, which is the great commandment in the law?' The fundamental problem is hypocrisy, which is a form of dishonesty: pretending to believe in God, saying the right things and appearing to be religious when in fact, your heart isn’t in it. The real meaning of the scripture is that the commandments of God should not be altered. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. November 25, 2019 December 2, 2019 Sister Faulconer Leave a comment. It is obvious that the central thrust of this verse is that the Bible and the Book of Mormon function together to satisfy the law of witnesses. 20:27; Abr. These chapters are slightly different from other Isaiah quotes. It is clear that the Bible does not contain all of God's word, and there is much more which he has "caused . [John A. Tvedtnes, "Firstborn in the Wilderness," in Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon , F.A.R.M.S., 1999, pp. Here in verse 10 this incorrect doctrine is decried by the Lord himself. 2 Nephi 2. Even in these few verses, Nephi's version contains more information than is found in Isaiah's biblical account. 2 Nephi 29:13 The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. Miracles, spiritual gifts, and revelation are always available to the true followers of Christ. Chapter 29 is also a prophetic chapter concerning the Book of Mormon. If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? . Nay; but ye have acursed them, and have bhated them, and have not sought to recover them. When Joseph finished his inspired revision of the Old Testament, he inquired of the Lord on March 9, 1833, as to whether or not he should translate or revise these apocryphal books. If the Lord is going to set his hand a "second" time to gather Israel, then when was the first time the Lord "set his hand to recover his people"? Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.". Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. 3 Nephi 1:13. (Robert J. Matthews, Book of Mormon Symposium Series, 3 Nephi 9-30, edited by PR Cheesman, MS Nyman, and CD Tate, Jr., 1988, p. 38) 3 Ne 29:2 ye need not say that the Lord delays his coming. 2 Nephi 2. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever. The records of the Nephites and of the Jews obviously do not consist of only one book each. The only thing that preceded it was the First Vision. How can we thank the Jews for the Bible? The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. The lost tribes are Israelites whose identity is not known to the world and in some cases not even to themselves. "the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews", The expression "lost tribes" is found in only two verses of scripture, here and in, It is obvious that the latter-day gathering and restoration of Israel will also include a gathering, into one, of the three major scriptural testimonies of Christ. Certainly every modern-day missionary has encountered this objection to our Church's non-biblical standard works. 2 Nephi 29:10 “Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not cause more to be written.” There is more for Heavenly Father and Jesus to do, and they will do so much more. 3:12; 33:10 (10–11). 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Certain books will be used both as a standard and as a witness in the final judgment. 2 Nephi 29:2 Verse Text. 1 But behold, there shall be many-at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 1 The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. (29:1-2) I shall proceed to do a marvelous work. We have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible! "the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews" The expression "lost tribes" is found in only two verses of scripture, here and in 3 Nephi 17:4. that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever. 2 Nephi 29: 13: “And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: … Yes, indeed! By the time we arrive at this point in the scripture, Nephi has already prophesied that the whole world in the last days will be engulfed in apostasy. In the final verses in this chapter, we will identify three major scriptural records that have come forth or will eventually come forth. 3 Wherefore, I write unto my people, unto all those that shall receive hereafter these things which I write, a that they may know the judgments of God, that they come upon all nations, according to the word which he hath spoken. 2 Nephi 28:3 The churches which are built up, and not unto the Lord . And when the two enations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also. These are 2 Nephi 26:15-16; 2 Nephi 26:18 which correspond to Isaiah 29:3-5. TG Israel, Gathering of; Israel, Restoration of. In latter-day scripture we read: "And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves" (D&C 133:26). And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever. Since Ephraim was the predominant tribe among the ten lost tribes, and since the latter day Church has frequently been referred to as consisting of the "children of Ephraim," perhaps the Doctrine and Covenants should be regarded as a witness for Jesus Christ among latter-day Ephraim which may some day be combined with the other records of the lost tribes when they come forth. Rather each is a collection of many books. 2 Nephi 29:13The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. Tag: 2 Nephi 29 What I learned. The Lord in D&C 91 gave him, in essence, the following answer which is the position of the Church on the Apocrypha: (1) These books contain many things which are true, and they are mostly translated correctly. 2 Nephi 29: 14 “And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. that they shall write the words which I speak unto them" If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? In doing so, he was not quoting from Isaiah but Helaman. O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.” Mosiah. Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? ... 29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we a need b … Again, the phrase "all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south" and the phrase "islands of the sea" refer to scattered Israel wherever they may be found. One of the definitions of. 10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written. That several other records living there I think this is a side-by-side comparison of Nephi... 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